Thermochill Faq & Detailed Dimensions Options

[Marci]

ThermoChill FAQ - 4th October 2005
It's moved.... find it here: http://www.over-clock.com/articles.php?act...;showarticle=19

ThermoChill Dimensioned Drawings
PA120.1
PA120.2
PA120.3
FG120.x aperture template

ThermoChill SKETCHUP Components
PA120.1 Radiator with 1/2" Barbs

PA120.2 Radiator with 1/2" Barbs

PA120.3 Radiator with 1/2" Barbs
PS120.3 Performance Shroud
FG120.3 Triple Grill
NG120.3 Neoprene Gasket

Performance Testing - PA vs HE vs BlackIce GT vs others!
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=77260

ThermoChill PA Series PQ Curves, C/W Curves etc
http://www.thermochill.com/PATesting/

ThermoChill HE Series Shroud Templates
For HE120.2 - http://www.over-clock.com/marci/HE1202Shroud.pdf
For HE120.3 - http://www.thermochill.com/guides/HE1203Shroud.pdf
For PA Series - Buy em from our Online Store! No need to make your own.

ThermoChill Paint Finish - as of May 2006.
The ThermoChill PA Series Paint Finish has now been changed. After a large response from the general public regards the inferior quality finish provided by the paint previously used on PA Series radiators, we've gone back to the more popular and infinitely more durable matt black finish used in former days on our HE Series radiators. This old / new finish takes a good degree of effort to scratch / mark, whereas the original PA Paint was easily scratchable with naught but a sturdy finger nail. We are currently looking into powdercoating our radiators. There should be more news on this by the end of March 2007.

Fin Damage
Inevitably, some folks end up with bent fins... altho these won't affect performance in any major way, you should straighten them out as best possible with a suitably sized flatblade screwdriver.

Flushing your Radiator
Hot Water is all that is required. Our radiators all use water-based flux and residue can be flushed simply by cycling hot water thru the radiator for an hour or so.

Which Barb is Inlet, which is outlet??
The lowest barb on any item should be the inlet, and the highest the outlet EXCEPT for Reservoirs, where it's the other way round - lowest outlet, highest inlet.
If neither barb is higher than the other physically, then it makes no difference, altho it is worth noting that if this is the case, then the barb nearest the mobo should be inlet and furthest from the mobo as outlet... just makes it easier to bleed by lying the case on it's back (as if you were working on the mobo)

[Marci]

Dimensioned Drawings added (PA120 Series)

[VeeHexx]

sweet stuff marci just intime for me to measure up my case for the PA.2

just for the benefit for others - are the PA and HE 120-series all the same diamensions/cutout diamensions?
PA120.1 = HE120.1
PA120.2 = HE120.2 etc.

another thing...... is the 112mm holes big enough to use the FG120.x fan grills, and not see any case between the grill's fan slots?

[Marci]

Nope... if using the grills, best bet is to either purchase grill first for marking up, or just don't do anything til it's in your hand...

TC? Wossa TC120.x?

[VeeHexx]

ok...... try a HE120 rad then

edited previous post ^^^

[Marci]

Fan alignment etc are identical, but PA is a few mm wider than HE on it's total ext dimension, so yes, the above can be used for a template for HE series blowhole alignment etc.

Is this what you're after for the grill?

FG120.1 Grill Aperture Guide

For FG120.2 etc, just stick side by side ensuring distance betwen adjacent fan mounting screw holes is 24.5mm.

[teko]

Do you have a detailed drawing of the HE102.3 as you have of the PA? I'm asking because I'm making a mod via Autocad, and it takes a bit of time to meassure all the dimensions

[Marci]

Unfortunately not... sorry!

[teko]

Ok, then, is there any difference in the bottom and top part of the radiators? Meaning where the air screw and the barb fittings is?

[Marci]

Possibly easier way to answer your question. PA Series rads are thicker and wider, but the same length... so length of core area is same, and total length (core + each endtank) is the same.

[teko]

Thank you, just what i needed

[Gilgamesh the Su...]

Marci if may be so bold as to add a suggestion to your flushing mothod please?

I know white wine vinegar has caused a storm over at extreme systems a fact i saw AFTER i did mine, but the BEST method I found if white wine vinegar is used, is to used NORMAL hot water After the vinegar with BIcarbonate of Soda (baking powder) to neutralise any remaining acidity, then a final rinse should be with distilled water.

I have noticed that on extreme systems when ever someone has used the vinegar method and had problems afterwards they also have never thought of using the bicarbonate of soda mix to neutralise any remaining acidity.

Just a suggestion mate

Gilgamesh the sumerian

[Marci]

Guide needs updating anyways - only need to use hot water to flush our rads. No vinegar required. Search XS, you'll find I advised using hot water due to flux being waterbased about 3 weeks ago. Their watercooling sticky has been changed to reflect this, as has Overclockers'...

[Gilgamesh the Su...]

Guide needs updating anyways - only need to use hot water to flush our rads. No vinegar required. Search XS, you'll find I advised using hot water due to flux being waterbased about 3 weeks ago. Their watercooling sticky has been changed to reflect this, as has Overclockers'...

Yes i noticed the posts, AFTER I did the vinegar method, never mind mate rad came away very clean, as you said there are always people whom will insist on using vinegar and as a result bicarbonate of soda will help to neutralise any adverse effects. Having that said, now that I know mate i will use the hot water method in future mate, thanks for you advice and candor in this matter.


gilgamesh

[Gilgamesh the Su...]

Yes i noticed the posts, AFTER I did the vinegar method, never mind mate rad came away very clean, as you said there are always people whom will insist on using vinegar and as a result bicarbonate of soda will help to neutralise any adverse effects. Having that said, now that I know mate i will use the hot water method in future mate, thanks for you advice and candor in this matter.
gilgamesh

Addition really GOOD news on the paint job on your rads, damn was very horrified to findthe same prob myself, pian flakes off even if I gently take rad out to clean or fill. bah! Nice to know my one concern has been addressed.

gilgamesh

[teko]

I've meassured the PA120.3 and the one I have is a bit wider ( on the horisontal axis from the side) ~61mm, and the rest of the rad also have some variations in the dimensions. Is this just due to production differences?

[Marci]

Yep.

[teko]

Just had to be sure Sometimes the chinese makes look alikes of all sorts of things

[teko]

Got DWG files for the PA 120.2 and 120.3 if anyone want's 'em. and I'm allowed to send them They're only the outerdimension and holes for fans, screws and barbs..

[Marci]

Google Sketchup Component links added to the OP for the 120.3 series of parts. These can also be downloaded from Jez's Sketchup Component Collection